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  Death and Resurrection

  by Cold Creek Swimmer in

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  good morning all.. i am writing this after learning of my father's death yesterday.

  i am a bit out of sorts to say the least.

  i was fortunate to have been able to talk and laugh with him only last weekend while he was (we thought) recovering from a coma in a long term care facility.

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  Cold Creek Swimmer

  Gopher, Bite me,

  Thank you for your kind words.

  CCS
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  Death and Resurrection

  by Cold Creek Swimmer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  good morning all.. i am writing this after learning of my father's death yesterday.

  i am a bit out of sorts to say the least.

  i was fortunate to have been able to talk and laugh with him only last weekend while he was (we thought) recovering from a coma in a long term care facility.

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  Cold Creek Swimmer

  Good morning all.

  I am writing this after learning of my father's death yesterday. I am a bit out of sorts to say the least. I was fortunate to have been able to talk and laugh with him only last weekend while he was (we thought) recovering from a coma in a long term care facility. 2 days later he was back in a coma and died by yesterday morning.

  I was shaken more than I ever thought I would be. My father and I were never close. I have always been the loner in the family. Until the last few years, I was a firm believer in the resurrection. I have since come to believe in the idea of nothing. I finally fully understand why it is so important for witnesses to have this belief. They actually draw comfort from the idea of seeing dead loved ones again. My current belief system hit me square in the face when I realized that that is it. I will never in any way be able to communicate with him again. That is the price I pay for having my eyes opened and learning the truth about the lie. That has to be part of the reason that so many want to hang on to a flawed belief system. Without hope, they feel that they will lose their anchor.

  I do not agree with the lie that is the resurrection hope. I do not agree with believing this because truth hurts so much. I think it is best to feel the pain of loss and deal with the reality of that loss and what it really means. I tried to spend yesterday dealing with this. I broke down whenever I tried to think of him. I am still trying to face this loss, but have to do it in increments. The first increment for me was the telling to those who knew him. That was bad enough. I am away from all family until tonight when I get home to my wife and kids. That's the next increment. I suppose the hardest will be when I see my mom and siblings next weekend for the memorial. The reality of the situation will hopefully finally sink in and I'll be able to move on.

  I write this not as a call for sympathy, but as a sort of catharsis for myself. Sometimes just putting into words what I am feeling helps. This time it has. Thank you for reading my ramblings and I sincerely apologize if this is a waste of your time. I do not post too much because I don't often have much to say. Today, it was about me, and I'm ok with that. I hope you will be as well.

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  For the ladies. Do you think that when you.....

  by NotaNess in

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  dress to impress, get all slathered up and have your little or lots of flesh showing, depending on your blouse, skirt, pants or shorts....that people(men) are not supposed to stare at you?.

  seriously, if your at home in your closet deciding which outfit you're gonna wear to work, school or out to play, and thinking how you'll look more attractive in this or that....do you not know that guys are gonna stare at you?

  but you see these females on occasion that will get all in an uproar when some guy is staring at them....but hello...didn't you choose with pin-point accuracy, the exact top that's gonna reveal your cleavage at it's fullest?????

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  I have read each and every post on this thread. I am conflicted to some extent as to some of the answers given. However, I will throw in my 2 cents anyway. Here goes:

  Sweetstuff, correct me if I am wrong, and please take no offense. Would it be fair to say that a woman of your intelligence understands the effect your (or any woman's) style of dress has on a man? If so, in your case, I am assuming that the reaction you receive to the clothes you wear are a good indicator of the moral fiber and intellect of any and all men that you encounter in your daily routine. Could I go so far as to say that in some instances you and others like you wear certain things specifically to detect unseemly individuals?

  Maybe I am reading too much in to the whole style of dress issue presented here. Maybe it is as simple as "This feels sexy and I feel sexy today so this is what I will wear." If that is the extent of it then great. I think my wife feels that way. She is the most unpretentious person I kinow. She's oblivious to how her dress affects others. It is all a matter of how she feels that day or what is appropriate for work.

  I guess I am even more confused then when I began, but I can't help but believe that in SOME instances, CERTAIN women dress for a reaction. I also believe as stated above that cave dwellers can be picked out by their reaction to provocative clothing-thus the need to dress in that manner for that purpose.

  Remember, these are only theories and ideas gleaned from this thread. They in no way reflect the moral barometer of the one whose head they come from. I am just looking for reasonable answers to the ideas I have hypothesized.

  CCS

  P.S.-Sweetstuff, I never noticed your decolletage until this thread. Am I a cave dweller now? I just thought it was a pretty photo before attention was drawn away from your face.
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  Help - running out of "excuses" for not attending meetings

  by truthseeker in

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  my situation as some of you know, i'm married and my wife is a jw and still wants to go to meetings.

  i on the other hand do not.. over the last few years, i have suffered with poor health and i also studied, so when i was studying i would say "i'm at college/doing homework/taking exams" which for the most part was true.. i also have ill health, suffer with chronic chest infections for part of the year.. trouble is, people at the hall are having a hard time buying my excuses, or if my wife tells them the reason i'm not there, they now start giving her the eyeroll, or they say to her "well, you're here and so am i.".

  not one of the elders calls to see where i am, what they can do.

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  Try doing what I finally did. The last meeting I went to in my area I told the truth. A brother asked what my story was-a believer, baptised, why did he not see me. I told him that I did not go very often. He asked why-was I stumbled? I said no. The only reason that I ever go is if I am choosing to help my wife with the kids. "I don't go if I don't want to." He later asked me after the meeting if I would like to go on some bible studies with him in the evenings. "No." He said, "Oh, I understand, busy with work and the family, hard to get away." At this point I was the most honest I had ever been. "No, that's not it. I don't want to go on the studies. But thanks for asking."

  It was the best thing I have ever done. I have not been back since and no one has called. Honesty is the best way to get a dub to leave you alone. They have no idea what to say when you tell them the truth. They want to hear an excuse so that they can believe that deep down you really want to be like them. It is inconceivable to them that anyone would actually want to stay away and then be honest about it. It scares them so much that they won't talk to you anymore. I personally think that they are so jealous of your ability to tell it like it is that they can't deal with it.

  When all else fails, tell the truth. You don't want to go anymore unless you feel like going. You won't be there unless you feel the need. What are they gonna do? They already don't talk to you. My life became much more simple when I finally stopped making excuses.

  CCS
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  If You Dressed Up on Halloween- Who Would You Dress Up As ?

  by flipper in

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  thought i'd do another one on halloween!

  i'm in the spirit!

  no pun intended !

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  One of Jehovah's Witnesses. My best friend actually did this several years ago. He was a big hit.

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  Annual meeting notes

  by Quandry in

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  don't know if this has been posted before.

  these are the annual meeting notes.

  notice that although the fds "not inspired" an "err" they are the channel of communication.

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  Cold Creek Swimmer

  I just wanted to say position and climax in the same sentence.......oompa

  Good stuff! ROTFLMAO

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  Annual meeting notes

  by Quandry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  don't know if this has been posted before.

  these are the annual meeting notes.

  notice that although the fds "not inspired" an "err" they are the channel of communication.

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  "We of the Governing body have not always had the right understanding. The Gov. Body is not inspired and neither are the publications. It is the Holy Spirit that helps us to find the correct understanding".

  What a load of crap! They cannot make the statement that they are not inspired and then say that the spirit is directing them. The Holy Spirit must be lost with as many changes as they make. How can anyone believe this garbage? I get so frustrated when I think about how long I was duped and now my wife and kids still are stuck in that crap hole.

  It seems so logical to me. I have made this statement many times on this board. For me, it is the most logical and obvious proof of their BS. You are either spirit directed or you are not. If the spirit is helping them, then the spirit gets it wrong all the time. Without the spirit guidance they are just a bunch of uneducated, home bible-schooled losers. The thing that is so frustrating is the way they use this supposed spirit guidance to force submission to an ideal created by them!

  I have to stop now. I am getting too angry and may resort to violence on my laptop. Thank you for your time.

  CCS
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  This is the argument my dad used to justify "new light"

  by marmot in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was talking with my dad the other week and i revealed my doubts (well, not doubts really, conviction) that noah's flood didn't cover the earth.

  he tried the usual, first he printed up all the stuff on the flood that he could find on the wt cd (even though i told him that i already read everything the society has ever written about the flood) and when that failed to convince me he brought out the ol' trust in jehovah(tm) line .

  plus, he said that since i was so enamored with science to disprove the flood i should consider how science doesn't have the same position on certain subjects compared to the past and that it's based on progressive understanding.

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  "New Light" is a joke. It is an excuse to cover up bad reasoning and policy. Ask your father how many times since the bible was written has it changed it's original message. When he says none, then ask him how many times the WTBS has changed policy. If he were to say that he believes the same things as Rutherford, he would be D'fed for apostasy. There are numerous examples on JWD to show policy changes. After quoting several, ask him if the FDS claims to be "inspired" by God to write what they do. When he responds in the affirmative, ask him why God changes his mind so much.

  There is no other way to explain "New Light". If the WTBS is "Inspired" from God, then God must have made some obvious doctrinal mistakes. He will then tell you that the Society is made up of imperfect men. This is true and has always been known. That is why they cannot have it both ways. They are either inspired and God's mouthpiece, or they are imperfect men who don't really know anything other than what they can guess at. If they are inspired, then God has made many mistakes. It cannot get any simpler than that.

  Don't expect a reasonable outcome when you say this. I tried it on my dad and was thrown out of his house for being an "Apostate". The funny thing is, I only spoke about things written in their publications.

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  Have you ever forgotten your baby was in the car?

  by changeling in

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  what's up with this wave of people forgetting their babies are in the car?

  i'm a certifiable dingbat but i never forgot my kids were in the car.

  if i ever did, i can't see it happening for more than a few minutes and then running back to the car to get them.

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  I've never forgotten my kids in the car, but for the 1st 3 years after child #3 was born, I was constantly looking for the 4th nonexistent child whenever we went somewhere.
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  Anyone from Phoenix?

  by Cold Creek Swimmer in

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  i am currently working a long way from home in phoenix.

  it would sure be nice to meet some exdubs while i am down here.

  please send me a pm if there is anyone interested in meeting an oregon ex-dub.. ccs.

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  BTTT